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Lonnit Rysher's article presents a fairly typical anti-spanking view.  The editor analyzes this view against the Christian Biblical perspective.

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This article contains commentary by the Christian Parent's Network editor.  The editor’s comments are denoted by the use of green italicized font.  The author’s original comments are surrounded by quotes and emphasized with bold  text.   To see the authors original article in it's entirety, please visit her website Breastfeeding and Attachment Parenting, Instinctively. I would like to say that there are some things on her site that I agree with, but not her thoughts on child discipline!

Comments in Bold from an article by Lonnit Rysher, editor of Breastfeeding and Attachment Parenting, Instinctively.

 

"Did you know that in some countries it is illegal to spank?  In the US it is common to spank children, but you better watch out because you might be getting a visit from Child Protective Services! Nowadays, Kids are even reporting their own parents! Maybe you don't think you are "abusing" your child especially if you never "left a mark" but the most damaging "marks" do not necessarily scar the child's body, but his or her psyche."

 

Comments in Green Italics by Mark Benedict, editor of Christian Parent's Network website.

The laws of a country address the collective opinion of what is wise and expedient in the eyes of the citizenry.  The law does not always reflect what is moral and upright in the sight of God.  The laws in Nazi Germany under Hitler required patriotic Germans to turn in Jews to be exterminated in the gas chambers.  The fact that it was the law of the land did not change the inherent wickedness of an immoral practice.  The fact that humanistic arrogance leads some countries to interfere in the God-given rights of parents to discipline children in accordance with the time-honored and Biblically proscribed method does not make spanking immoral.  A foolish law does not establish morality, any more than a wicked law makes wicked behavior moral. 

 Abortion is legal, but who can seriously argue that is not immoral?  No law can change the fact that it is an act against our Creator to destroy unborn children in the womb.  As to the European countries who’ve taken the lead in criminalizing spanking, you cannot draw conclusions about the morality of spanking based on their laws because laws can be changed to suit the whims of rulers and governments. 

Laws may or may not reflect the truth, for this depends on the moral foundations of the leaders making the laws.  The Christian believes that the Bible is a more reliable and accurate revelation of morality than changing laws. For many years western nations have based their laws on the teaching of Scripture. It was the emphasis on Biblical morality that provided the spiritual and cultural underpinnings for the majority of the material and social progress in the west.  Western civilization is now in decline.  Given the recent disdain modern man has shown for the Bible’s teaching on marriage, faithfulness, and the rights of God over His creation it is not surprising to see that western law is growing hostile against time-honored practices and traditions that are clearly taught in scripture. Neither is it a surprise that as western nations reject Biblical morality that we are witnessing a tremendous surge in moral and behavioral problems.

As many spankings opponents do, Ms. Rysher assumes what she aims to prove, and then reasons from her assumption without bothering to establish the evidence for her position.  We get just a little hint of how strong she opposes spanking by the hint of delight she expresses in the thought of parents fearing a visit from Child Protective Services, as if this would somehow make them better parents. 

Does she believe that Child Protective Services will do a better job of raising children than loving parents? Would anyone seriously believe that governmental agencies such as Child Protective Services are better qualified to raise children than the children’s own parents? Her reasoning suggest that not only does the government know better about discipline, but kids who report their parents for spanking also know better than their parents.   

Ms. Rysher apparently sees nothing wrong with the situation created by anti-spanking legislation where children report their parents for spanking.  She sees no middle ground between parents who discipline their children with reason and love, as prescribed by the Bible, and those who strike their children in anger and rage. This is a common tactic with spanking opponents.  They lump genuinely abusive parents with normal, loving parents together as one group.  This, despite the fact that that the majority of children who are disciplined in love by caring parents turn out to be healthy and well adjusted individuals.  There is a difference, both in motives and result, and it is disingenuous to imply otherwise.  There have been scientific studies showing long-term benefits in children who were spanked in a caring atmosphere, but anti-spanking proponents dismiss these studies on the basis of their preconceptions. 

What shall we make of her dire warnings below on the consequences of spanking to children? 

"The damage might not be apparent at first, but it may sit there like a ticking time bomb. It can affect their self-esteem and their personal relationships for the rest of their lives when their unnatural confusion between love and pain causes them to seek out abusive partners. "

What is this unnatural confusion between love and pain that makes them seek out abusive partners?  A properly disciplined child has no confusion over the reason for their pain.  What research has established the damaging effects? For every research project showing damaging effects you can find another research project leading to the opposite conclusion.  Experts have genuine differences.  Many research projects arrive at these conclusions because are biased in the study methodology.  They fail to distinguish between parents who spank effectively from parents who are simply unloving and uncaring.  

One reason there is little research on spanking conducted in a scientific manner is that there is little built in financial incentive for the behavioral scientific community to prove a traditional remedy such as spanking works.  Spanking empowers parents to solve their children’s behavioral without professional intervention. There are well documented and carefully conducted professional studies which receive little public notice because the conclusions are not popular.

"Psychiatrists & child experts have recently come to acknowledge the damaging effects of spanking, and have begun recommending against physical punishment. The most ironic discovery they have made is that spanking as a form of discipline just doesn't work!"

To her first generalization I would reply that some psychiatrists and child experts have recently come to acknowledge the damaging effects of not spanking children when they need it.  The fact is that there is no consensus among the psychiatric community on the best way to discipline children.  The author cites no reputable statistics or studies, just her opinion.  She attributes her opinion that spanking as a form of discipline doesn’t work to having been recently discovered by psychiatrists and experts without providing evidence.  This is not exactly an application of the scientific method.  It is equally valid for me to provide my opinion that spanking is very effective when properly done.

"I have spoken to dozens of people who were spanked as children and they tell me the same exact thing over and over... "Yes, I remember being spanked, but I don't remember for what." The "lessons" were lost. Many of these same people also stated that their spankings actually made them feel rebellious! Our jails are filled with criminals who were spanked as children."

Oh reader, I challenge you to ask dozens of people the exact same question and get the exact same answer over and over.  I’m afraid the reader is not being intellectually honest here.  If I went to my church and asked a dozen members their views on disciplining children I might get 8 of the 12 who substantially agreed in the contents of their answers, although it would never be phrased exactly the same unless I asked them a leading question or a multiple choice answer.  If I knew that a dozen of those people shared my views and then asked that dozen I might be able to stack the answers in a way that make the results agreeable.  If I were to ask a truly random cross section of the public, however, I would never get the exact same answer from dozens of people.  It is fairly evident that Ms. Rysher has either deliberately or accidentally stacked the deck of her panel of dozens by selecting a jury favorable to her point of view.  Yet she acts as though her informal panel of experts is a formidable argument. 

So what if I can get a ten or a hundred people to agree on something?  In Nazi Germany Hitler’s propaganda machine was able to marshal public opinion in support of their official policy of exterminating Jews.  If morality is a function of public consensus, then the Nazi actions were moral!  If morality is based on unchanging principles then it matters not how many agree, wrong is wrong!

"Okay, so maybe your child won't end up in jail, but don't be surprised to see him hitting his little sister, or becoming the playground bully, believing that "might makes right". By spanking your child you are sending the message that it is acceptable to overpower someone smaller than yourself."

Why wouldn’t a child perceive instead that righteous authority  protects the rights and interests of the weak?  Parents who discipline effectively demonstrate  tyranny and aggression will not be tolerated by representatives of just government!  If you are stopped for speeding and have to pay $100.00, are the police teaching you to be a spend thrift with your money? Are they teaching you to be wasteful? After you pay the fine, will you have an  irresistible urge to start giving money away? The answer, of course, is no! You are fined for speeding to get your attention and to restrain your behavior. The same principle applies to discipline. Biblical spanking is an act of love designed to change a child's behavior (Proverbs 13:14, 29:17).

"Did you ever notice that bullies never pick on people bigger than themselves? Well, not unless they are in a gang picking on an individual, but once again there is an unfair advantage by outnumbering the victim."

There is no evidence to support this view other than the author’s desire to wish it were so.  There is a hidden assumption underlying the author’s reasoning.  That assumption is that there is no difference in results between the parent who spanks using controlled discipline and the parent that strikes out in anger or frustration.  What is so strange about this whole line of reasoning is that there is hardly a parent alive over the age of 40 years old who cannot remember being spanked!  Yet we never learned to be bullies from being spanked!  I believe it is much more typical for bullies to develop because they have not been effectively disciplined by their parents.

"Parents set an example for their children by their actions. Spanking teaches that hitting is an acceptable way to express feelings and resolve problems. The most ludicrous thing I've ever seen is the mother who spanks her child for hitting his sibling! Now, did that actually make any sense? Did it resolve anything?"

Why is it impossible to believe that spanking teaches the child that authority will not tolerate the abuse of the weak by those stronger?  Where does a child learn the concept of justice if parents do not demonstrate it in the home? It is the child’s acceptance of the rightful exercise of God-given parental authority that prepares the child to accept the authority of the state.  Ms. Rysher believes that a child is not smart enough to understand the concept of benevolent authority exercised to protect society from antisocial behavior, yet she believes that the child will respond favorably to “instinctive, gentle, parenting.”  Practically speaking what does she mean? What actions will change the child’s behavior?   

"Too often it is forgotten that children and babies are people too. Why would you treat a child is such a disrespectful way as you would never treat another adult? The following is the most effective example I've ever heard, that points out how inane and unacceptable spanking is. Just replace the word "child" with the word "wife" in any scenario you can think of which involves spanking.

If someone hit their wife for spilling the milk, or breaking a dish or whatever action that might typically result in the spanking of a child, you'd certainly think him a brute, a monster. You'd want to get that woman removed from that situation as soon as possible. Everyone agrees that spousal abuse of that sort is unacceptable so why is it tolerated, even condoned, when the victim is a child? Would you ever dream of telling your grown son to hit his wife? Then why would you tell him that his child needs a "swat on the bottom"?"

This line of reasoning is absurd! A child responds to the world differently from an adult. What is appropriate for an adult is not appropriate for a child!  Ms. Rysher also further muddies the argument by using an example inappropriate for a reasoned discussion about child discipline.  First, in an attempt to color the argument she uses the word “hit” in her ridiculous example of a parent hitting their child for spilling milk!  No parent should “hit” a child!  Hitting and spanking are not the same.  Hitting is an emotional response that is uncontrolled.  Opponents of spanking will not acknowledge the difference between a spanking (which is a reasoned application of force appropriate to specific behaviors) and the violent and uncontrolled actions of an abusive parent.  It is dishonest to lump them together. 

Secondly, no parent with an adequate understanding of the Biblical principles of child training would ever spank a child for spilling milk or breaking a dish!  Ms. Rysher attempts to paint an unflattering picture of parents who spank by deliberately choosing a ridiculous example of discipline.  This is a dishonest tactic, which insinuates that all parents who spank are harsh and demanding.    

"What happens when the spanking doesn't work? It can lead to more frustration on the part of the parents, who find it more and more difficult to control their anger and spanking escalates into beating. It is virtually impossible to be angry enough to be brought the point of spanking, yet be calm enough to control the intensity of your swats."

Ms. Rysher believes that no parent could find it in themselves to spank unless they are propelled to a violent anger first.  On the contrary, parents who discipline effectively spank on the basis of clearly defined rules, not on their feelings of the moment.  They spank their children for acts of disobedience, defiance, and rebellion.  They need not be angry to spank, just as policeman need not be angry to arrest a lawbreaker.  Officers of the law have a duty to enforce the law, regardless of their personal feelings.  Effective parents may not “feel” like spanking their children, but they do it enforce the moral law God has revealed in scripture.   

"If you claim that you "never hit in anger" and wait until later to deliver the "punishment", then the "punishment" will be less effective because too much time has gone by in the child's mind for the action to be associated with the "punishment. "

Ms. Rysher neatly wraps up the parent who spanks in a box of her own making.  Is it coercive to force citizens to follow the law or face the consequences?

"Our newspapers are filled with stories of such adolescents who, once the boiling point has been reached, strike out murderously against their parents or devastate the community in a deadly assault upon their schoolmates."

A careful examination of these adolescents more often than not will show a pattern of missing or inconsistent discipline.  See the book by Police Detective Robert Surgenor for detailed statistics showing that violent children are more likely to have never been spanked or effectively disciplined by their parents.  It is curious, that today when spanking is less prevalent than any other time in our history, we are seeing so many more of these incidents.  Spanking in society is on the decrease, yet violent acts by children are on the increase. Hmm…so we should believe that spanking, which is practiced less, is causing more violence?  Yet 30 years ago when nearly all parents spanked we had much less violence?  How much sense does that make?    

"The spanking cycle often perpetuates itself down the generations until at last, someone finally wakes up and says "I'm not going to do that to my children".

They realize that what they experienced at the hands of their parents didn't feel right, because it wasn't right. "

Ms. Rysher, your children are less than 4 years old at the time of this writing so you may have the opportunity to rethink your views between now and the time when your children become adults.  I spanked my children and they thank me for it today as young adults, 23, and 20 at this writing.  They have both been successful in their academic careers, while providing great joy to my wife and myself.  Other adults are always impressed by their demeanor and the warm relationship we enjoy today.  Both of our children have stated their intent to follow the same methods of discipline we used on them with their own children.  Mark Benedict

 

 

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